do you expect, kirsten, passion like i bring or are we going to have pinheaded stuff like pbs does? what are we going to have? we're not going to have passion as you call it, whatever it is that you have. >> none of that. >> look, it's supposed to be all on the economy so i think it's probably going to be, you know, pretty straightforward. hopefully a difficult question holding obama accountable and making him account for his record. >> bill: are you talking about this debate or it's undebated in the land of oz? don't you guys get it? it doesn't matter what lehrer asks. they are north going to answer that question. neither of them are going to answer it. they are going to -- they have been rehearsing. what do you think they have been rehearsing over the past three months? they have got all their little answers and they will spit them out no matter what he asks, leslie. >> i don't disagree with you there, bill. definitely this is something. >> bill: we're north going to get any straightforward answers. >> i don't agree with you there though. i don't agree with you there. >> bill: hol